Why did Madara send Pain

mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 06:37 PM

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Zazuro · 11-02-2009, 06:43 PM

Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha.

zerosameri · 11-02-2009, 06:44 PM

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Vatanui AKA Pride · 11-02-2009, 06:49 PM

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mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 06:55 PM

Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha.

Madara has a meeting with Pain in chapter 407. He tells Pain to hurry to Konoha
before they are strong enough to beat him. Yes it is to find the Nine Tails but by
sending Pain to find Nine Tails he is in a sense sending Pain to destroy Konoha
since neither Pain nor Konoha would give in so easily. It would make more sense
to send Sasuke to go after the nine tails since Sasuke could rather easily lead
Naruto to Madara or Madara to Naruto with little to no collateral damage. Pain could go after eight tails. So why didn't Madara do this? Because he doesn't want to risk Sasuke and Naruto teaming up together and because Madara WANTS Konoha destroyed.

mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 06:59 PM

I just find it fishy that Sasuke says "I will destroy Konoha"
and then Madara later says in effect "Oops you're too late."

Vatanui AKA Pride · 11-02-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha.

Madara has a meeting with Pain in chapter 407. He tells Pain to hurry to Konoha
before they are strong enough to beat him. Yes it is to find the Nine Tails but by
sending Pain to find Nine Tails he is in a sense sending Pain to destroy Konoha
since neither Pain nor Konoha would give in so easily. It would make more sense
to send Sasuke to go after the nine tails since Sasuke could rather easily lead
Naruto to Madara or Madara to Naruto with little to no collateral damage. Pain could go after eight tails. So why didn't Madara do this? Because he doesn't want to risk Sasuke and Naruto teaming up together and because Madara WANTS Konoha destroyed.

That's a theory, somewhat. And why did you just make a thread and answer it yourself? >.>

Vatanui AKA Pride · 11-02-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsticky005

I just find it fishy that Sasuke says "I will destroy Konoha"
and then Madara later says in effect "Oops you're too late."

I too find it fishy. So far, it seems Madara had been distracting Sasuke with capturing Killer Bee and the Kage Assassination.
I think he doesn't want Sasuke to go back to the Uchiha Shrine. Madara did say that the shrine can be read with different eyes, one part with the regular Sharingan, one with the MS, one with the EMS, and one with the Rinnegan. Maybe Madara's trying to keep Sasuke form knowing something that may trouble his plans?

Nemico · 11-02-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

That's a theory, somewhat. And why did you just make a thread and answer it yourself? >.>

Haha.....
Yea well like said before just think Sasuke got caught in the Mess but anyways Pain was already on his way and Well Sasuke wants to Kill Danzo he's already shown it, he might not have destoryed the Konoha if he went but he probably would have tried to Taken out Danzo at all costs.

To what Vat said on the shrine ^ it could be a possibility but Sasuke didnt have MS at the time there.

mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 07:07 PM

That's a theory, somewhat. And why did you just make a thread and answer it yourself? >.>

What part is a theory?

Also I think a better question for this thread would be...

Why send Sasuke after eight tails?

Why not just send Kisame in the first place? Madara should know if Kisame is stronger than Sasuke (or better at capturing tailed beast hosts at least).

Madara was trying to delay Sasuke.

mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 07:09 PM

I too find it fishy. So far, it seems Madara had been distracting Sasuke with capturing Killer Bee and the Kage Assassination.
I think he doesn't want Sasuke to go back to the Uchiha Shrine. Madara did say that the shrine can be read with different eyes, one part with the regular Sharingan, one with the MS, one with the EMS, and one with the Rinnegan. Maybe Madara's trying to keep Sasuke form knowing something that may trouble his plans? ____________

I like this theory. Very interesting.

Haha.....
Yea well like said before just think Sasuke got caught in the Mess but anyways Pain was already on his way and Well Sasuke wants to Kill Danzo he's already shown it, he might not have destoryed the Konoha if he went but he probably would have tried to Taken out Danzo at all costs.

It seems like Madara DOESN'T want Sasuke to kill Danzo. At least not yet.
It's all too suspicious that Danzo leaves the Kage meeting and Madara appears.

Nine-TailedSage_Naruto · 11-02-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsticky005

That's a theory, somewhat. And why did you just make a thread and answer it yourself? >.>

What part is a theory?

Also I think a better question for this thread would be...

Why send Sasuke after eight tails?

Why not just send Kisame in the first place? Madara should know if Kisame is stronger than Sasuke (or better at capturing tailed beast hosts at least).

Madara was trying to delay Sasuke.

Cause Madara Wanted Sasuke to prove his loyalty to him and the akatsuki..

mrsticky005 · 11-02-2009, 07:12 PM

Cause Madara Wanted Sasuke to prove his loyalty to him and the akatsuki..

If that was it then why didn't Madara kill Sasuke for betraying him?

Madara told Sasuke that death was the punishment for betraying Akatsuki.

Failing to capture 8 tails could be seen as a sign of betrayal.

Nine-TailedSage_Naruto · 11-02-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Cause Madara Wanted Sasuke to prove his loyalty to him and the akatsuki..

If that was it then why didn't Madara kill Sasuke for betraying him?

Madara told Sasuke that death was the punishment for betraying Akatsuki.

Failing to capture 8 tails could be seen as a sign of betrayal.

yea thats true.....but sasuke iss too important to him he cant afford to kill him....true that madara had told sasuke that he was dead if he betrayed the akatsuki.....but in chapter 453 madara says that "i dont care about him anymore there's something else that i need you to do"....the only reason madara lets sasuke go is because he needed him to go to the summit then...

Nine-TailedSage_Naruto · 11-02-2009, 07:53 PM

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in chap 404 kisame mentions that sasuke's team Taka still isnt strong enough to go up against the whole of konoha....and so madara later decides that the akatsuki will go ater the nine-tails while team will be deployed against the hachibi..

Vatanui AKA Pride · 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM

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I too find it fishy. So far, it seems Madara had been distracting Sasuke with capturing Killer Bee and the Kage Assassination.
I think he doesn't want Sasuke to go back to the Uchiha Shrine. Madara did say that the shrine can be read with different eyes, one part with the regular Sharingan, one with the MS, one with the EMS, and one with the Rinnegan. Maybe Madara's trying to keep Sasuke form knowing something that may trouble his plans? ____________

I like this theory. Very interesting.

Haha.....
Yea well like said before just think Sasuke got caught in the Mess but anyways Pain was already on his way and Well Sasuke wants to Kill Danzo he's already shown it, he might not have destoryed the Konoha if he went but he probably would have tried to Taken out Danzo at all costs.

It seems like Madara DOESN'T want Sasuke to kill Danzo. At least not yet.
It's all too suspicious that Danzo leaves the Kage meeting and Madara appears.

And after Madara disappeared after telling of his plans, Danzo appeared once again.

mrsticky005 · 11-03-2009, 11:56 AM

Ok why doesn't Madara send Kisame with Sasuke to capture eight tails?
What was Kisame doing that was more important?
I mean sure there's the whole "let's see if I can trust Sasuke thing"
but why not have Kisame nearby just in case Sasuke betrays him?
Also with Kisame and Sasuke the chances of failure are small.
Also why did Madara have Zetsu tell the Kages that Sasuke is coming
if Madara told Sasuke to kill the Kages? Madara says one thing to Sasuke but then does something or has one of the other Akatsuki do something totally hypocritical. I'm thinking Madara is trying to delay Sasuke. Why? Maybe
because he thinks Sasuke might try to warn Konoha. Maybe he doesn't
want Sasuke finding out something from that tablet. Maybe he doesn't
want Sasuke to meet Danzo.

3littlepigs · 11-03-2009, 12:05 PM

Like other members said, Sasuke didn't know the truth about Itachi when Madara gave Pain that order. The one who was supposed to capture Naruto was Itachi but Madara knew 1) he was sick and 2) the fight with Sasuke was going to happen soon meaning 3) Itachi was most likely going to die soon anyways. Pain was sent because in my opinion he and Madara were the only two Akatsuki member "stronger" than Itachi so it just made sense...I don't think it's fishy that just when Sasuke was going to "destroy" Konoha (of course with his wild imagination he believed Taka could've destroy Konoha) Madara told him Pain had already done so...Pain headed towards Konoha before Sasuke "joined" Akatsuki so of course when Sasuke decided to destroy Konoha Pain was already in the process of doing it.

Superwes Reborn · 11-03-2009, 12:15 PM

There is one simple answer. And a couple of others

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mrsticky005 · 11-03-2009, 12:17 PM

Like other members said, Sasuke didn't know the truth about Itachi when Madara gave Pain that order. The one who was supposed to capture Naruto was Itachi but Madara knew 1) he was sick and 2) the fight with Sasuke was going to happen soon meaning 3) Itachi was most likely going to die soon anyways. Pain was sent because in my opinion he and Madara were the only two Akatsuki member "stronger" than Itachi so it just made sense...I don't think it's fishy that just when Sasuke was going to "destroy" Konoha (of course with his wild imagination he believed Taka could've destroy Konoha) Madara told him Pain had already done so...Pain headed towards Konoha before Sasuke "joined" Akatsuki so of course when Sasuke decided to destroy Konoha Pain was already in the process of doing it.

If Madara doesn't think Sasuke is powerful enough to destroy Konoha then why does
he try to convince Sasuke into thinking that he should destroy Konoha? Why not just
let Pain destroy Konoha as he did and not worry about Sasuke?

Why did Madara send Sasuke to the Kage meeting but then have Zetsu tell the Kages
that Sasuke is coming?

It seems like Madara is trying to delay Sasuke from doing what Madara tells Sasuke to do. If Madara is on Sasuke's side (which I don't think he is) he shouldn't be doing that.

11-02-2009, 06:37 PM	#1
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Why did Madara send Pain Spoiler: to destroy Konoha if Spoiler: Sasuke said he would? Spoiler: Is it just me or does that seem fishy? Spoiler: My guess? Spoiler: Sasuke wasn't going to destroy Konoha and Madara knew that. In fact I think why Sasuke was actually in such a hurry to go to Konoha... Spoiler: may in fact to warn Konoha.

11-02-2009, 06:43 PM	#2
Zazuro Veteran Chunin Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ....America. (Former-Italy) Posts: 1,219 Rep Power: 7	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha. __________________ Rukia Kuchiki is my favourite character of the whole anime/manga series of everything. Rukia Kuchiki is mine, ;P ~ RUKIA KUCHIKI ~ I may hate debating, arguing, and doing the political game but.....that doesn't mean I don't know how to play. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Well......what now? Nothing new!!!! Don't look at me if you want anything stupid or funny! -_- October 31st, 2009: Rep Hell of Halloween '09.

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zerosameri Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Back in the U.S Posts: 3,286 Rep Power: 9	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Spoiler: He probaly did that because Sasuke is wanted by the Leaf and if he went their, the most likly Naruto would get to him fist, then the Abu, then Maybe the Hokage. Plus that said Sasuke would definaly get cought then what ever need Madara had with Sasuke would be gone just like that. __________________ Tobi and his "senpai moments" Neji: Sleek and smooth is the way to go. So use Neji's 'super sleek hair jell' (i wounder is its a real thing? ^)

11-02-2009, 06:49 PM	#4
Vatanui AKA Pride has a farm... Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Developing the Forums C0 Nuclear Bomb Posts: 16,186 Rep Power: 23	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Spoiler: He likely done that because Pain was his most trusted as well as powerful subordinate. I mean, he's sending ONE(Excluding Konan) person to destroy one of the 5 Great Countries. Pain was pretty much the only remaining guy in Akatsuki besides Madara himself that could have taken out a village. Sasuke couldn't do it, because Sasuke was still recovering from his wounds and far too weak at that point to take a village and actually succeed in doing so. __________________ Everyone Wears a Mask The Black Reaper ANBU-Go to us for Help! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-02-2009, 06:55 PM	#5
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha. Madara has a meeting with Pain in chapter 407. He tells Pain to hurry to Konoha before they are strong enough to beat him. Yes it is to find the Nine Tails but by sending Pain to find Nine Tails he is in a sense sending Pain to destroy Konoha since neither Pain nor Konoha would give in so easily. It would make more sense to send Sasuke to go after the nine tails since Sasuke could rather easily lead Naruto to Madara or Madara to Naruto with little to no collateral damage. Pain could go after eight tails. So why didn't Madara do this? Because he doesn't want to risk Sasuke and Naruto teaming up together and because Madara WANTS Konoha destroyed.

11-02-2009, 06:59 PM	#6
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain I just find it fishy that Sasuke says "I will destroy Konoha" and then Madara later says in effect "Oops you're too late."

11-02-2009, 07:07 PM	#10
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain That's a theory, somewhat. And why did you just make a thread and answer it yourself? >.> What part is a theory? Also I think a better question for this thread would be... Why send Sasuke after eight tails? Why not just send Kisame in the first place? Madara should know if Kisame is stronger than Sasuke (or better at capturing tailed beast hosts at least). Madara was trying to delay Sasuke.

11-02-2009, 07:09 PM	#11
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain I too find it fishy. So far, it seems Madara had been distracting Sasuke with capturing Killer Bee and the Kage Assassination. I think he doesn't want Sasuke to go back to the Uchiha Shrine. Madara did say that the shrine can be read with different eyes, one part with the regular Sharingan, one with the MS, one with the EMS, and one with the Rinnegan. Maybe Madara's trying to keep Sasuke form knowing something that may trouble his plans? ____________ I like this theory. Very interesting. Haha..... Yea well like said before just think Sasuke got caught in the Mess but anyways Pain was already on his way and Well Sasuke wants to Kill Danzo he's already shown it, he might not have destoryed the Konoha if he went but he probably would have tried to Taken out Danzo at all costs. It seems like Madara DOESN'T want Sasuke to kill Danzo. At least not yet. It's all too suspicious that Danzo leaves the Kage meeting and Madara appears.

11-02-2009, 07:12 PM	#13
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Cause Madara Wanted Sasuke to prove his loyalty to him and the akatsuki.. If that was it then why didn't Madara kill Sasuke for betraying him? Madara told Sasuke that death was the punishment for betraying Akatsuki. Failing to capture 8 tails could be seen as a sign of betrayal.

11-03-2009, 11:56 AM	#17
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Ok why doesn't Madara send Kisame with Sasuke to capture eight tails? What was Kisame doing that was more important? I mean sure there's the whole "let's see if I can trust Sasuke thing" but why not have Kisame nearby just in case Sasuke betrays him? Also with Kisame and Sasuke the chances of failure are small. Also why did Madara have Zetsu tell the Kages that Sasuke is coming if Madara told Sasuke to kill the Kages? Madara says one thing to Sasuke but then does something or has one of the other Akatsuki do something totally hypocritical. I'm thinking Madara is trying to delay Sasuke. Why? Maybe because he thinks Sasuke might try to warn Konoha. Maybe he doesn't want Sasuke finding out something from that tablet. Maybe he doesn't want Sasuke to meet Danzo.

11-03-2009, 12:05 PM	#18
3littlepigs Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 579 Rep Power: 2	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Like other members said, Sasuke didn't know the truth about Itachi when Madara gave Pain that order. The one who was supposed to capture Naruto was Itachi but Madara knew 1) he was sick and 2) the fight with Sasuke was going to happen soon meaning 3) Itachi was most likely going to die soon anyways. Pain was sent because in my opinion he and Madara were the only two Akatsuki member "stronger" than Itachi so it just made sense...I don't think it's fishy that just when Sasuke was going to "destroy" Konoha (of course with his wild imagination he believed Taka could've destroy Konoha) Madara told him Pain had already done so...Pain headed towards Konoha before Sasuke "joined" Akatsuki so of course when Sasuke decided to destroy Konoha Pain was already in the process of doing it.

11-03-2009, 12:17 PM	#20
mrsticky005 Chunin Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 962 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why did Madara send Pain Like other members said, Sasuke didn't know the truth about Itachi when Madara gave Pain that order. The one who was supposed to capture Naruto was Itachi but Madara knew 1) he was sick and 2) the fight with Sasuke was going to happen soon meaning 3) Itachi was most likely going to die soon anyways. Pain was sent because in my opinion he and Madara were the only two Akatsuki member "stronger" than Itachi so it just made sense...I don't think it's fishy that just when Sasuke was going to "destroy" Konoha (of course with his wild imagination he believed Taka could've destroy Konoha) Madara told him Pain had already done so...Pain headed towards Konoha before Sasuke "joined" Akatsuki so of course when Sasuke decided to destroy Konoha Pain was already in the process of doing it. If Madara doesn't think Sasuke is powerful enough to destroy Konoha then why does he try to convince Sasuke into thinking that he should destroy Konoha? Why not just let Pain destroy Konoha as he did and not worry about Sasuke? Why did Madara send Sasuke to the Kage meeting but then have Zetsu tell the Kages that Sasuke is coming? It seems like Madara is trying to delay Sasuke from doing what Madara tells Sasuke to do. If Madara is on Sasuke's side (which I don't think he is) he shouldn't be doing that.

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